Chinese Cheaters?

August 13, 2008 chouei

Two days ago, sportwriter Dan Wetzel wrote a blog about the speculations of the Chinese women’s gymnastics team being younger than they actually claim. [“Karolyi accuses Chinese of age-old problem” ] In his blog, he reiterates the accusations that Bela Karolyi, a supposedly important person in the U.S. gymnastics world, makes against the Chinese gymnasts, saying that the Chinese are cheating by submitting athletes who are not yet 16 to compete in the Olympics.

What are his arguments? They LOOK too young to compete.

I am completely baffled. “They are using half-people,” he said. “These people think we’re stupid.”

I don’t think it’s only the Chinese who think you and your wife are stupid, but everyone else who slightly cares for this issue. What the heck is a half-person? Is he claiming that children in their pre-teens are only half of a person, therefore can receive only half of the rights entitled to “full-humans”? Or is he playing at the stereotype that Asians tend to be shorter than other ethnicites? In that case, I’m a half-person too seeing that I’m only 5’4″ yet I used to play forward in basketball against 6′ plus girls.

And has Bela Karolyi never seen Chinese or other Asian people in his life? In case he hasn’t noticed, most of them look young for their age! When I was 12, people thought I was 15. Now I’m 21 pushing 22, and people still think I’m in high school. The fact that these girls look younger than they really are is a matter of genetics, diet, and in this instance their rigorous gymnastics training. Asians tend to age slower than other ethnicities, and their diets are composed of fresher foods that contain no preservatives and much smaller portions than what the United States is accustomed. Also, I have read that intense gymnastics training not only stunts your growth, but could also postpone puberty. I’m not trying to be a pervert here, but if you look at pictures of the Chinese gymnasts, you can see that they have boobs. What 12-13 year old gymnasts do you knowhave fully developed boobs? They may be small, but for crying out loud, they’re Chinese! Our women are known for being flat.

I see his and his wife’s petty arguments against the Chinese team as a way of blaming the U.S. team’s poor performance on someone else other than their own athletes. His wife Marta calls the Chinese team a bunch of “babies” [Karolyis’ sour grapes make bad whine] but it is the Karolyis who are the babies in this case.

If they are going to blame the Chinese team and the government for forging documents to prove these girls’ ages by looks alone, then why not blame the Japanese as well? Their team’s average height is 4’10” which is only one inch taller than the Chinese average of 4’9″. Of course they won’t blame the Japanese. They were not a threat to the U.S. team, so instead of trying to bring the Chinese team down through skills alone, I guess the Karolyis figure they could win the gold through the blame game. I should join in on the blame game fun so let me make the claim that Shawn Johnson is not 16-years-old as it states on her profile, but only 12. The U.S. government must have forged her passport to say that she’s 16 in order for her to be eligible to compete in the Olympics. I mean, she LOOKS too young and short to be 16. [insert eye-roll here]

The U.S. team won the silver because they committed bigger mistakes than the Chinese, and the U.S. athletes have accepted the silver with grace. However, Marta stated that the judges affected Alicia Sacramone’s balance beam performance on the 15-minute delay before her routine. What kind of athlete would you be to blame your performance on something petty like a time delay? Doesn’t being an athlete mean that you have to train your psyche to handle any unexpected circumstances while under pressures of competition? Michael Phelps was able to medal AND break a world record by swimming with waterlogged goggles, so why couldn’t Sacramone deal with the 15-minute time delay?

The Karolyis need to shut it. No matter how much they gripe to the press, they have no way of proving that the Chinese have falsified the girls’ ages. They just need to accept the fact that the Chinese defeated the U.S. team because the Chinese were able to overcome nerves and execute better than the U.S.

My message to the Karolyis: Sorry if the Chinese gymnasts are not as tall as the American athletes. Sorry if the Chinese don’t have crows feet and graying hairs by the time they’re in their 20’s like Americans do. And sorry that the Olympics and the rest of the world can not accomodate to your every desire.

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39 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Darren Terry&hellip  | 

    -comment deleted for ignorance-

  • 2. Turbo&hellip  | 

    The real stupid thing is, the reason that underage gymnasts are not allowed is because it was ruled that it is unfair to put younger girls through the stress that is olympic-level gymnastics.

    It’s nothing to do with “cheating”, and I’m sure the peak age for gymnasts comes at 18-19 like most other sports.

    Really ridiculous, yet another way this argument is unfounded.

  • 3. Michael&hellip  | 

    I can understand the desperation of the Chinese athorities to ‘prove’ their self-described superiority, but not at the Olympics. It shows a sad desperation when in fact, they would be much more respected as a Nation if they stopped the ignorant Communism, stopped treating their people like dirt, stopped cheating to get ahead, and stopped polluting the planet. I, an American, live in a Nation where we are losing our rights daily, our govt. is treating us like dirt, and we are aware of the destruction we have caused on mother nature—but we don’t cheat at the Olympic Games.
    I am just glad i am not from China..yet

  • 4. Me&hellip  | 

    LOL. Calm yourself.

    1) An age-restriction, REGARDLESS of the reason, is an age-restriction. Rules cannot be broken selectively with the argument that their intent wasn’t violated.

    2) Karolyi’s english still sucks, and “half-people” was some bizarre analogy to how small they are — not a slam on Chinese, not a slam on children’s rights… an analogy regarding THEIR size. Even compared to Chinese teams of Olympics passed, they’re very, very small.

    Get over yourself and your perceived sense of wounding. The world doesn’t revolve around you or your fragile ego.

    Shocking that the Chinese might have lied about ages (you know… like ‘that’s not pollution, it’s fog’ or ‘she’s not lip syncing’). Given the track record of propaganda and image management, is it any wonder people doubt?

  • 5. Chinese Cheaters&hellip  | 

    “When I was 12, people thought I was 15.”

    Sounds like you should have been a gymnast so you could cheat too.

  • 6. Drumz&hellip  | 

    China cheats. It’s an accepted practice in China, much like lying is acceptable in the Middle East. They are just more tools to win a contest or negotiation. It’s a cultural difference Christian cultures don’t understand. Not that Christians don’t cheat or lie, it’s that there is NO SHAME involved with cheating for the Chinese. They don’t see cheating as a bad thing, nor do they see lying about the cover-up as a bad thing. Meanwhile, they’re credibility is now completely shot.

  • 7. Darren Terry&hellip  | 

    Just like China…too afraid to be told the truth.

  • 8. Darren Terry&hellip  | 

    Sorry if the Chinese don’t have crows feet and graying hairs by the time they’re in their 20’s like Americans do.

    HAAAHAA COWARD!!!!!!!!!!

  • 9. chouei&hellip  | 

    Hi Darren. Just to give an explanation as to why I deleted your comment. I admit that the statement that you were commenting about was rather irrelevant to this entry, which is why I took it out. However, your original comment showed incredible ignorance, which is something that I personally do not tolerate.

    In case you haven’t noticed, I have approved comments from other people who oppose my arguments. Yours was just unreasonable and ignorant, and I do not stand for that.

    If I was a coward, I wouldn’t be writing this, now would I? And maybe you shouldn’t be so quick to judge the Chinese unless you were raised in the culture like I was.

  • 10. kim&hellip  | 

    How about the proof from a reported document of a chineese gymnast being younger than she claimed? Eat that you american hating hippie.

  • 11. Allyana&hellip  | 

    China is cheating. The girls are under 16, this is obvious by their physiological forms, faces, and body language. Referring to 20 something Americans, the most attractive people in the world, as having graying hair and crows feet, is not only ridiculously false and laughable, but it isn’t going to detract the attention away from the fact that your article is attempting to give credit where it is due the least. To a country that is cheating in the Olympic Games.

    Deal with it.

  • 12. Steven&hellip  | 

    Hey, did any of you chinese haters actually check the medal count or watch the competition at all? The Chinese gymnastics team won fair in square. Be it that the girls were 12, 24, or 40. It’s not considered cheating if the proof is there that the girls r 16 or older. Just because someone has an assumption or suspicion of something, that doesn’t make it legit. I bet you the posers Allyana and Darren “Fairy” Terry assume they are undeniably smart too, but the PROOF is here that they’re ignorant fools. The facts speak for themselves and yeah…uhhh…china kinda won GOLD, by a mile. Besides, isn’t America the country that recruits underage players *ahem KOBE ahem LeBron ahem Kwame Brown??* to go play in the NBA just to make for better competition and entertainment? or how about the sophomores who wanted to enlist in the nfl draft before their time? The same guys who r giving the Chinese flack are probably the same guys who made fake IDs like McLovin’ just to get their hands on some booze as an underage drinker. What did you guys do when you were 16 (or even under, as u say). I’m sure it was win, what’s that a GOLD MEDAL? yeah…china’s kind of a big deal, whether the United States can accept it or not. Y can’t we just give credit where credit is due? I mean, I’m rooting for phelps and U.S. B-ball team all the way, but if another country gets the medal, they damn well deserved it. If you don’t think so, then somebody is lying to those that are lying to you…

  • 13. jan&hellip  | 

    I am 22 years old and I’m 5’1. I get carded at the tables in Vegas because I can pass for a 15 year old. I’m not necessarily saying that the Chinese can’t be lying, BUT I do believe that those girls can be 16. Its true tho, many asian people tend to age a little slower than other people in the world (not only just Americans). The Karolyis are sore losers. Even the American team thought the Chinese girls deserved the gold because they brought their A game to the stadium that night. It was also stated in the article that the coach was mad that the U.S didn’t allow her to do the same (referring to using the “supposed” underaged girls).

    Lastly, in the individual competition, the American women got the well deserved Gold and Silver, while a Chinese girl got the Bronze. That night was just a good one for the American girls and good for them.

  • 14. S B R C&hellip  | 

    Your insecurities in your heritage and ethnicity are severely apparent. You should not take such offense to a few opinions from someone you don’t even know. Being defensive and subsequently unabashedly offensive only prove your belief that your country has been dishonest in this matter. I apologize we (as Europeans and Americans) are unable to understand your inability to feel guilt for cheating, but we are always taught to be honest, respectful, and truthful. We win because we work hard, not because we “cheat” the system. Otherwise, wouldn’t we all win??? For example: I am 28, and I could compete against 12 year olds in math championships, if I did not have a conscience. (And BTW- I have yet to sprout a gray hair or a single wrinkle… must be MY excellent genetics) Would that truly make me the champion? Or would I just be cheating these children out of a chance? You decide. I have a feeling I know your decision. If anyone is curious about these girls’ ages, there are plenty of articles posted by the Chinese media showing them to be much younger than their passports. A little online research strengthens the argument.

  • 15. Matt H&hellip  | 

    One name — Yao Ming

    and all the other 6 ft “Asian” ballers you see on your local park playing pick-up ball.

    Like with all other humans, “Asians” also have a full spectrum of tall AND short people.

    From what I understand, at 4’9 Shawn Johnson is legally a midget too.

  • 16. Joe&hellip  | 

    Admittedly, Karolyi’s arguments are shallow. Just because they look young doesn’t mean anything. There is plenty of evidence, however, that suggests the Chinese government is lying about at least one of their ages. This includes several articles published in Chinese magazines and newspapers that cite He’s age as being 14 at the present date. One of these has been suspiciously changed to state 16 but earlier copies saved or screen copied by people prove that it once said 14.

    None of this proves without a doubt that they are underage, but it certainly raises the question. I would agree with some people’s arguments that being younger doesn’t necessarily give them an advantage, but I would also argue that rules are rules. Even if it doesn’t give someone an advantage, breaking the rules is illegal and cannot be condoned.

  • 17. Brian Palmer&hellip  | 

    From what they were saying about the purpose of banning underage gymnist…. Their younger little bodies haven’t developed stiffer bones. They’re much more limber for bending ect.

    Is China overall a fair player?
    Have you seen the films of these 3-5 year olds being taken from their families and nearly tortured to become future Olympians?
    How about letting Olympians develop out of their own choosing.

  • 18. matt&hellip  | 

    obviously you all have computers and internet service. If you want to make a “reasonable arguement” try doing a little more research of the facts! The Chinese state run media, yes the same state that issued these passports only 6 months ago, have stated in their own newspapers that these gymnasts were only 13-14 yrs old last year and surprise surprise, the links to these stories are being shut down by the chinese gov. hmmmmmmmmmm good thing Google cached these articles so they can still be read by those who are smart enough to do some research! try googling underage chinese gymnasts! cheating is cheating and cheaters never win(unless they cheat in their own country at the games they host and the wimpy weasley IOC doesn’t care to be politically incorrect and check documents other than recently state issued passports.

  • 19. Joe G&hellip  | 

    those links that were being shut down by chinese websites… this article i found actually has screen shots of the websites BEFORE they were taken down.. and he posted them on his article… very intersting stuff…

    MUST SEE! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-flumenbaum/scandal-of-the-ages-docum_b_118842.html

  • 20. lxy&hellip  | 

    Wow, the American jingoists are crawling out the woodwork like a bad rash.

    This is a classic example of American “patriotism” in all its malignance.

    United We Stand!

    Let’s Roll!

    God Damn … er Bless Amurika!

    These chest-beating Amurikans are gloating with a smug glee over the gymnastics brouhaha and acting as if the USA has any moral authority to be talking about cheating in sports.

    Does that make you feel No. 1, Amurikans?

    Does it restore pride in your war criminal America that is guilty of wars of aggression from Iraq to Afghanistan, and is busily torturing and genociding people from Abu Ghraib to America’s Gitmo Gulag?

    Americans just love to assert their moral supremacy over any country that opposes them (like China).

    Freedom and Democracy are NOTHING more than 200-year old American LIES to rationalize this US moral supremacist heritage. Always has been. Always will be.

    BTW, Amurikans. Ever heard of US Olympians like MARION JONES, TIM MONTGOMERY, CHRYSTE GAINES, KELLI WHITE, or BARRY BONDS, ROGER CLEMENS, FLOYD LANDIS?

    They are AMERICAN CHEATERS ALL!

  • 21. True&hellip  | 

    Every country has its cheaters in sports Ixy… We dont want to know about all the people in every country who made bad decisions in sports but we care about this specific gymnast…

    Also this article is riddiculous… We arent blaming her for being too young because she is short… Almost all athletes in this sport are what most would consider short… It is clear to us that she is too young because of her looks, and gymnastics does not turn a 16 year old into a twelve year old no matter how badly you love your home country… Also, Joe G you really did your research, this is very good information … http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-flumenbaum/scandal-of-the-ages-docum_b_118842.html … Prove that she is her age dont try and and pretend we are assuming incorrectly because of her height… prove the acts wrong not the criticisms

  • 22. Lxy&hellip  | 

    “Every country has its cheaters in sports Ixy… We dont want to know about all the people in every country who made bad decisions in sports but we care about this specific gymnast… ”

    That’s called an evasive and selective double standard.

    You want to know about this gymnast’s age–not out of any sense of fair play)–but because you feel that the innocent, morally rightoues America (home of USA Cheaters like Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery who have used PEDs no less) has been cheated by China, which increasingly figures as the latest object of America’s hate campaigns in general.

    Self-righteous hypocrisy is the American Way, baby.

  • 23. matt&hellip  | 

    lxy obviously you are a cheater / communist sympathizer! I dont agree with ANYONE cheating and all of those you named have been exposed as cheaters as have the government and gymnasts of China. Free Tibet! And Free Democracy! Marion Jones is in prison for lying, cheating so let it go and come back to the land of reality. No one would even be discussing this if there was no merit to the arguement. Cheaters beware the internet reveals all!!!

  • 24. radioactvman&hellip  | 

    Ixy, you make a good point that America has had its fair share of athletes who have chosen to cheat, the problem with this argument is that none of these American athletes were aided by the U.S. Government.

    In this situation the Chinese government is the one that is guilty for falsifying government documents in order to get their best gymnasts on the team despite rules that are in place to protect all Olympic athletes. And all this blatant cheating is in order for China’s ruling class to present some image to the rest of the world that their totalitarian government is “OK” because they are winning Gold Medals.

  • 25. False&hellip  | 

    . Michael | August 14, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    I can understand the desperation of the Chinese athorities to ‘prove’ their self-described superiority, but not at the Olympics. It shows a sad desperation when in fact, they would be much more respected as a Nation if they stopped the ignorant Communism, stopped treating their people like dirt, stopped cheating to get ahead, and stopped polluting the planet. I, an American, live in a Nation where we are losing our rights daily, our govt. is treating us like dirt, and we are aware of the destruction we have caused on mother nature—but we don’t cheat at the Olympic Games.
    I am just glad i am not from China..yet

    Ye right americans don’t cheat,

    What about Marion Jones ? Paul Hamm ? Justin Gatlin ? Kenta Bell ? Damu Cherry ? Torri Edwards ? Tyson Gay, Bernard Lagat and Allyson Felix ? Breaux Greer ?

    Seriously, if anything, the US has one of the worst doping records out there.

  • 26. Robert&hellip  | 

    Are you kidding me?? Where are you from. We all know asians are typically smaller (unless they are Sumo).

    Size is one thing but there was at least one Chinese Gymnast who was missing a couple teeth! Like her baby teeth had fallen out and she was growing her adult teeth!

    How many 16 y/o in any culture are still losing teeth at age 16!! What a crock. It is obvious that they are not all 16 y/o. If you don’t think that the Chinese Gov fabricated documents to get their best athletes out there you are crazy! Their culture, especialy in gymnastics, is all about winning at any cost. Why else do they pick them and start training them at age 2-3???

  • 27. matt&hellip  | 

    Has anyone else noticed that china only seems to win medals in sports that entail being judged? not like soccer or basketball or track and field or swimming or almost any sport where the scores are not subjective? sports that are not succeptable to judges being bribed? Kinda makes you wonder! I cant beleive China was ever even awarded the hosting of the olympics given their human rights record, and the terrible treatment continued during the olympics with two chinese old ladies being threatened with one year in a labor camp for asking for a permit to protest!

  • 28. dval&hellip  | 

    YOU ARE AN AMERICAN HATING HIPPIE INDEED!!! why don’t you leave for japan or something?! goooosh.

    lol.

  • 29. Lxy&hellip  | 

    Hey Matt and other Proud AmeriNazis:

    You fascists are obviously apologists for the great hypocritical and genocidal nation on this planet, the United Snakes of America.

    This same America that was founded upon slavery and Native Indian extermination and occupation of Mexican lands (Aztlan) rants about freedom and democracy!

    This is the same American that is genociding Iraqis to the tune of over 1 million dead. That’s Ameriscum “freedom” in all its bloody glory.

    In terms of the Olympics, America is a not only a nation of liars, but it is a nation of insecure and hypocritical propagandists who project their own malignant American instincts onto others.

    It’s the same America pimped and promoted cheaters from Marion Jones and Paul Hamm to Tim Montgomery and Floyd Landis. And now these Ameriscum accuse others of cheating.

    It’s the same America that is nervously looking over its shoulder at China and is desperate to prove the superiority of the “American Way of Life” in terms of the Olympic medal count.

    “America refuses to accept defeat in medal count”
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/olympics/article4599875.ece

    And if you American mutherfuckers wants to free something, you best free the captive nations whose land the American Empire stole and occupies from sea to shining sea.

    America is a White Colonizer nation since 1776. All these White apologists try to propagandize that little fact away.

    Free Aztlan
    http://www.aztlan.net

    North American Secession project
    http://www.secessionist.us/

  • 30. Lxy&hellip  | 

    “you make a good point that America has had its fair share of athletes who have chosen to cheat, the problem with this argument is that none of these American athletes were aided by the U.S. Government.”

    Yeah, right, If you believe in those all-American lies, you also believe in USA bullshit like Weapons of Mass Destruction, the phony American War on Terrorism, or that the United Snakes is the Beacon of Liberty. LOL.

    You ever heard of the US Olympic Committee?

    These cheating American athletes cheated FOR YEARS and would have NEVER been able to do so WITHOUT THE US Olympic Committee COVERING FOR THEIR ASSES until it was unable to do so any longer.

    Just look at MLB covering for your Steroid baseball users for DECADES.
    America’s Olympic athletes benefit from the same type of American government “oversight.”

    Don’t play dumb, boy.

    The American regime has always worked through its proxies to help the USA cheat and assert the supremacy of America’s doping PED athletes and Way of Life.

    So take your smug American hypocrisy and shove it up your Fuhrer Bush’s ass.

  • 31. matt&hellip  | 

    You really need to check yourself into an insane asylum!! I actually feel sorry for you , and the really sad part is I bet you immigrated to the U.S. so you could spout your hatred without fear of reprisal! Home of the FREE and the BRAVE!!

  • 32. matt&hellip  | 

    P.s. have you heard of reparations? we as a nation have apologized and paid the native Americans for past indescretions, and allowed them to have the only legal casinos in the U.S. besides the ones in Atlantic City and Nevada from which they make additional BILLIONS of dollars to support and uplift their race! Has China offered reparations to Tibet or are they still EXTERMINATING Tibetans? HMMMMMM come back to the present and reality please! And I would say something negative about your country’s leader but you have not
    stated where you are from as you must not be proud of your heritage or maybe you are embarrassed of your country of origen! LONG LIVE THE USA

  • 33. chouei&hellip  | 

    How do you know exactly that the Tibetans are getting “exterminated”? Do not get me wrong, because I am not saying that I support China’s occupying Tibet.

    And your example about the Native Americans isn’t exactly valid. The U.S. government’s “help” for the Native Americans is hardly help at all. Their tribes are diminishing every year and their people are driven to alcoholism. Their cultures are dying, and it’s all our fault.

    Check your facts, Matt. I am an American, born an American, but it’s people like you who make me not proud of my nationality.

  • 34. matt&hellip  | 

    Im sorry you’re not proud of your nationality, Chewy perhaps you should try living in China or North Korea, then we”ll see if your pride comes back to you and reparations and BILLIONS from the casinos would help anyone! why don’t you check your facts and see how many more native americans go to college and buy houses etc. And I have news for you I live right next door to the Pima Indian Reservation and they are reproducing still and Have cultural events frequently that not only teach their people about traditional dances, foods ,wardrobe etc. but are open to non native americans! their culture is far from dead so please check YOUR facts American hater!

  • 35. chouei&hellip  | 

    Actually Matt, unlike you, I have been to China, and I have a lot of family there, so I know what it really is like. And actually, every time I go to China, I come back prouder of my heritage than ever before. I never said China is the perfect society, and the United States is far from the perfect government as well.

    The U.S. settlers drove the Native Americans from their lands through violent takeovers. I hardly call that justified. It may be an event of the past, but apologizing for it now does not make it any better.

    Maybe their culture would be further thriving if the white supremacist settlers never stole from them to begin with.

  • 36. Lxy&hellip  | 

    Hey Matty boy:

    Whenever American flag-waving fascists like you don’t have an argument, they start regurgitating their propaganda slogans about the Land of the Free (sic) and Home of the Slave. You’re the perfect example.

    Moreover, you repeat all the standard American lies about China like a Fox News/CNN talking head.

    FYI, the Tibetan population has INCREASED since the days it was “free” under the Dalai Lama and his feudalist theocracy.

    The question of Tibet
    http://www.flonnet.com/fl2510/stories/20080523251000400.htm

    The same cannot be said for Native Indians who are/have been genocided by the so-called Beacon of Liberty.

    Genocide by Any Other Name…
    http://www.bluecorncomics.com/genocide.htm

    And, no, bullshit gaming casinos of all things(!) DO NOT COUNT AS REPARATIONS, you half-wit. All the propaganda “apologies” in the world can’t hide this reality. In point of fact, America’s apologies are purely propaganda and worth about as much as the USA’s LIES about Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction.

    The same America that exterminated Native Indians and occupy their land today tries to shed crocodile tears about Tibetans! That’s called Playing the Tibet Card.

    And a classic case of American hypocrisy.

  • 37. Lxy&hellip  | 

    Here’s even more good news for you, Matty.

    Recently, the Lakota nation has been moving to declare independence from America’s occupation. How do you like them apples? Who will be next? AZTLAN? The Vermont Republic? North American secessionism, here we come. Bu-bye, U$A.

    Lakota Sioux Secede From US, Declare Independence
    http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/12/21/5946/

    And don’t even get started on America’s genocide of Blacks during the times of slavery, the Middle Passage, or more recently, Jim Crow apartheid.

    Has America PAID REPARATIONS for its crimes of slavery and apartheid, Matty boy? I don’t think so.

    Then, there is America’s current genocide of Iraqis and Afghanis that proud Amurikans like Matt try to sweep under the rug.

    American Genocide In The Middle East: Three Million and Counting
    http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/08/08/3059/

    I almost feel sorry for ya, Matty.

    It seems to me that it’s YOU that needs to check into an insane asylum–given your almost delusional belief in American Freedom™.

    You are a typical brainwashed American drone. It ain’t even funny. God Bless the U$A! American Uber Alles!

    This is what your beloved genocidal America is really about:

    American Fascism Is on the Rise
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Amer_Fascism_On_Rise.html

    The United States of Terror
    http://www.intellnet.org/resources/american_terrorism/Amerikan_Terrorism.html

    Achtung! Are We the New Nazis?
    http://www.strike-the-root.com/3/herman/herman3.html

    BTW, Matt. I am an American born and raised. If you want to trash “my leader,” go ahead. It’s the All-American war criminal, George W. Bush!

  • 38. Lxy&hellip  | 

    Hey Matty boy: Whenever American flag-waving fascists like you don’t have an argument, they start regurgitating their propaganda slogans about the Land of the Free (sic) and Home of the Slave. You’re the perfect example.

    Moreover, you repeat all the standard American lies about China like a Fox News/CNN talking head.

    FYI, the Tibetan population has INCREASED since the days it was “free” under the Dalai Lama and his feudalist theocracy.

    The question of Tibet
    http://www.flonnet.com/fl2510/stories/20080523251000400.htm

    The same cannot be said for Native Indians who are/have been genocided by the so-called Beacon of Liberty.

    Genocide by Any Other Name…
    http://www.bluecorncomics.com/genocide.htm

    And, no, bullshit gaming casinos of all things(!) DO NOT COUNT AS REPARATIONS, you half-wit. All the “apologies” in the world can’t hide this reality. In point of fact, America’s apologies are purely propaganda and worth about as much as the USA’s lies about Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction.

    The same America that exterminated Native Indians and occupy their land today tries to shed crocodile tears about Tibetans! That’s called Playing the Tibet Card.

    And a classic case of American hypocrisy.

  • 39. matt&hellip  | 

    Both of You should move to Canada if its sooooooooooo bad here or anywhere else for that matter oh wait if you do you can’t speak your minds anymore no constitution buh bye duhhhhhhhhhh!

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